Clinton supporters still not embracing Obama
Polls Shows Warning Signs For Obama
A growing number of Clinton supporters polled say they may stay home in November instead of casting their ballot for Obama, an indication the party has yet to coalesce around the Illinois senator four weeks after the most prolonged and at times divisive primary race in modern American history came to a close.
According to a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll released Friday, the number of Clinton supporters who plan to defect to Republican Sen. John McCain's camp is down from one month ago, but -- in what could be an ominous sign for Obama as he seeks to unify the party -- the number of them who say they plan to vote for Obama is also down, and a growing number say they may not vote at all.
In a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey completed in early June before the New York senator ended her White House bid, 60 percent of Clinton backers polled said they planned on voting for Obama. In the latest poll, that number has dropped to 54 percent.
In early June, 22 percent of Clinton supporters polled said they would not vote at all if Obama were the party's nominee, now close to a third say they will stay home.
In another sign the wounds of the heated primary race have yet to heal, 43 percent of registered Democrats polled still say they would prefer Clinton to be the party's presidential nominee.
That number is significantly higher than it was in early June, when 35 percent of Democrats polled said they preferred Clinton to lead the party's presidential ticket.
Obama won 59 percent of support from registered Democrats polled in June; now he garners 54 percent.
Can Obama win enough Democrats without Clinton as his No.2 to gain the Presidency?
The Clintons left office eight years ago with approval ratings well over 60 percent with ALL Americans-Let's UNITE !!!
OBAMA-CLINTON 2008
posted by Randy Calypso @ Saturday, July 05, 2008
23 comments
23 Comments:
I BELIEVE I, LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE FELT LIKE THE SUPER DELEGATES PICKED OBAMA INSTEAD OF CLINTON JUST LIKE THE SUPREME COURT CHOSE G. BUSH. NOW WE ARE GOING TO LET CAROLINE KENNEDY PICK THE VICE PRESIDENT FOR OBAMA. I AM SICK OF MY VOTE NOT COUNTING FOR ANYTHING. WE GO AROUND THE WORLD TELLING OTHER COUNTRIES HOW TO VOTE, YET WE HAVE THE MOST UNDEMOCRATIC WAY TO SELCT A PRESIDENT OF ANYONE .
40 YEARS AGO ROBERT KENNEDY SAID A BLACK MAN WOULD BE PRESDENT IN 40 YEARS, NOW THE KENNEDY'S ARE TRYING TO FULLFILL THAT DREAM. IT'S FUNNY TO ME THAT A LOT OF THE RFK FAMILY SUPPORTED HILLARY.
TED KENNEDY, JOHN KERRY, JOE BIDEN, CHRIS DODD. AND OTHERS WHO WERE PRESIDENTIAL WANTA-BE'S ARE USING OBAMA LIKE A PUPPET ON A STRING. CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHAT CHANGE OBAMA BRINGS TO THE TABLE?
HE DOESN'T DO WELL WITHOUT HILLARY BY HIS SIDE. WHEN SHE SPEAKS, HE SAYS-YEAH!-WHAT SHE SAID.
I'VE SAID ALL ALONG, HE HAS NO ORIGINAL IDEAS.
IT'S TOO BAD THE SUPERS DIDN'T VOTE THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE LIKE THEY SAID THEY WOULD, BUT INSTEAD THEY BECAME INTIMIDATED INTO VOTING FOR THE MAN.
THE ONLY WAY THIS MAN WILL GET MY VOTE IS IF HILLARY IS ON THE TICKET' I DON'T KNOW ABOUT McCAIN YET, I'M LOOKING FOR A REASON TO VOTE FOR HIM. SO FAR THE ONLY ONE I CAN COMEUP WITH IS HE IS NOT OBAMA.
I, too, agree with the first post re Hillary for VP. Of course, I would have preferred Hillary for our Commander-in-Chief but, unfortunately, it's those power brokers behind the scenese who decided which Dem candidate should be chosen, right? I, for one, am not voting unless Hillary is, at least, the VP!!!
I am so disgusted with the DNC, the Media, Naral, those women who were so obnoxious towards Hillary, and the "two piece suit, white shirt, tie" people. It was getting me sick listening and watching them. The disrespect and the mean-ness towards Hillary and Bill was just unbelievable. I will never forget that. As much as I would love her to be on the ticket, I too feel she should be Madame President. She is by far the most qualified of all those candidates who ran and, with out a doubt, totally qualified over Mr. BO. Who are the Dems kidding? I am leaving the Democratic party, I am voting for McCain and they keep on saying "the women will come around" Trust me, not this woman.
If McCain becomes president, he can serve for 4 years and then Hillary can run again....and win.
How arogant and pompous of Mr. BO and his "crew" to have his acceptance speech in the stadium. This guy is so stuck on himself and really thinks he has what it takes. Let me tell you, he ran a "snow job" Hillary ran a "campaign".
The American people better take heed and not be fooled.
I agree with anonymous 1 and 2 and feather. Especially with the part about being so disgusted with the DNC and the Media. The DNC has betrayed the working class and women voters. The media has an agenda. They are no longer reporters, they're opinionators.
What do others think of the possibility of Hillary running as McCain's vp? Crazy? For me, it would be a dream come true. I've never voted for a Republican, but in this case, I'd do it in a minute (if Hillary were on his ticket).
Yes, BO is arrogant and pompous, but I've know that since the beginning. A phony. And so is the DNC. After being a life long Democrat, I'm now happily an Independent.
Hillary For VP:
Re the discussion about the Obama VP choice: Obama should realize he did not win by a landslide. In some areas, he did not win at all. He needs Hillary Clinton. I do not know why reporters (I agree with Yakity-Yak that they are not really reporters)and analysts say Obama will look weak if he "gives in" to pressure to pick Hillary. Maybe he needs to "give in" to the will of the people. Maybe the pressure is people expressing whom they want to vote for and what is best for the country (not to mention helping him win). He will show strength and look strong if he picks Hillary and shows he can overcome the past and LOOK FORWARD (have we heard that from Obama?); if he shows he can work with a strong woman who is very intelligent and knows "the ropes"; if he shows he can stop being petty about Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton should not enter Obama's consideration AT ALL. Bill Clinton would be fine during a presidency and could be a good resource if Obama can get over his own ego. Obama will show weakness by not considering Hillary and by using "pressure" and Bill Clinton as excuses. He has said the VP is his choice and it is a personal choice. (Does he mean he is the decider? Watch out. We have already had one of those in the White House.) This view is WRONG. He should do what the people want; what will help the ticket; what will help the country. I have been listening to the CNN "Anderson Cooper 360" clips of Hillary supporter comments. I'm with them. I'm still angry about the way Hillary was treated/the unequal "reporting". I'm still not an Obama supporter. I still do not trust him. It is interesting that Obama started a Web page to handle "smears", and he has said the media’s reporting that he has moved to the middle or is flip-flopping has not been attributed to the McCain campaign where Obama believes the charge came from. Obama implies the media is being unfair or inaccurate by just “picking this up” and reporting it as fact. Obama knows how this kind of reporting would work because he used the tactics on Hillary. The Obama campaign secretly put negative things out that the media did not attribute to his campaign or surrogates. Obama was presented as taking the "high road" and Hillary was presented as a "whiner" and destructive.
Obama would show strength and respect for the will of the people by choosing Hillary Clinton for VP.
Hillary lost and Senator Obama won. Go sulk elsewhere; and tell your candidate to shut her mouth, fall in line, and take her tin cup somewhere else.
Many of Obama voters were anti-Clinton votes. Putting her on the ticket is opposite of what made Obama attractive to so many of us. So many Clinton supports say they won't support Obama even if Hillary is on the ticket. While I respect your passion for Clinton, I believe adding her to the ticket would lose more than gain.
Also Hillary energizes many republicans. Obama has energized many conservatives. The two of them together would bring every conservative and republicans out to vote.
NO HILLARY FOR VICE, HILLARY NEEDS TO BE TOP DOG!!!!! The super delegates although said they were going to support Nobama, can not cast their vote until the convention. It would be in everybody's best interest to bombard the Democratic National Committee with emails of how disappointed we are in how they went about electing Nobama. Write and ask the super delegates to cast their vote at the convention for Hillary Rodham Clinton. What's better in Washington then 2 great minds and that is what we have in Bill and Hillary. Let them know we are not united, and will not vote for Nobama, I'd rather write in Hillary or vote for McCAin than that jerk. http://www.democrats.org/contact.html
GET ON YOUR KEYBOARDS AND WRITE, WRITE, WRITE.....HAVE EVERYONE YOU KNOW WRITE. SHE COULD STILL TAKE THIS AT THE CONVENTION!!!!!!!
donna from WV
Donna from WV, with all do respect, Hillary has already endorsed Obama. She couldn't go back on that without destroying what credibility she has.
That's just it, she wouldn't be destroying her credibility, the super delegates would embrace her in hopes of a win. If left to Nobama, the polls are falling fast and as of now he is just the persumptive nominee, he has not been nominated at the convention yet. As I've heard on more than one news cast he is losing voters fast and his mojo left him. Hillary still has hers in tact, and just waiting on her LOYAL supporters to do the right thing. Please take no offense, and everybody has their own opinion. This is just mine. Dreaming maybe, but never count out a Clinton.....I don't think Bill is quite as warm to him as the dems would like, and he isn't going to warm Bill up. This nation has some really bad problems if you haven't noticed and it is going to take more than a junior senator from IL, who has been called an empty suit on more than one occasion, that knows absolutely nobody,to do something about the crisis we are in. I've lived a few years, voted in every election, but I can't see that either candidate dem or repub has a hardcore plan they are sticking with. Nobama has changed his mind on more issues than I can count, and McCain can't answer a question without an hour of probeing from his staff. If this is all we have, then God I'm asking you to please bless this America!
donna from WV
Just one more thing....I don't think we have to worry about Hillary being vice, I don't think she would ever accept it. Always remember Nobama is just the persumptive nominee, he has not been given the title of Presidential Contender and won't until the convention. There is a lot of time between now and the last of August. If 18 million people write her in, what can they do? If the repubs bring him down, who will they look at? If his rating drops any further the super delegates have the power to change.
I just have this picture in my head of Nobama in the white house with his homeboys, a huge plasma tv, beer, and all the chicken wings they can eat watching basketball, while the rest of us suffer in silence. Does anybody else get that feeling?
donna from WV
the only way Obama gets my vote is to have Hillary as his VP. I am disgusted with the super delegate process, Pelosi, Reid, and CNN (especially campbell brown.
I didn't think it could get worse than the last election when bush stole it.
Just one more thing....I don't think we have to worry about Hillary being vice, I don't think she would ever accept it.
I wish that were true, but Hillary has already made it clear via her surrogates that she wants to be VP.
I just have this picture in my head of Nobama in the white house with his homeboys, a huge plasma tv, beer, and all the chicken wings they can eat watching basketball, while the rest of us suffer in silence. Does anybody else get that feeling?
No offense Donna, but I suspect Hillary would denounce that kind of commentary.
Oh, it's not the first time I've been denounced, and probably won't be the last. By the way, who hasn't been denounced in this election? Is anybody here a real fan of James Carville? I think he is just a ray of sunshine, that has a big black cloud over his head right now trying to find a way to denounce Obama. The sun will come back out for him in the next month and he will be back shining in all his glory!!!
donna from WV
She is by far the most qualified of all those candidates who ran. If she was not vp i would have not voted. But together it can bee a plus for us as a people.
The only difference between Obama and the smiling fool in office now is one is well spoken and charismatic. The American people were fooled twice before, I hope it doesn't happen again.
Iam 69, have been a DEM. all my life till a couple months ago. Now Iam a INDEPENDENT. I will NOT vote for Obama even if he made Hillary VP. When I go to the polls, I will write in the box that says OTHER (HILLARY CLINTON) I wish her & Bill dropped out of DEM. party and go INDEPENDENT, then her votes would count!!!!!
After a great February, when many Democratic voters must have gone temporarily insane, B. Hussein Nobama limped across the finish line in the Democratic primaries -- as the nomination process continued, it became increasingly evident that the Dem primary voters were getting buyer's remorse, and moving back towards Clinton. Most of what Obama has done and said since early June has only confirmed these worries.
The only way he can redeem himself, in my mind, is to pick Hillary as his running mate. If he doesn't, forget my vote (and I live in a swing state).
I hear all of this doom and gloom about Hillary being the vice president...why should she be president? She didnt win the nomination so back Obama. Simple aint it?
There was a scientific study done comparing the way little boys and little girls bully their peers.
For boys its more of a pecking order situation that eventually boys grow out of because you cant go around punching people.
On the other hand little girls do what they can to isolate the victim by telling nasty stories to their friends about the victim in order to "Pile on" the abuse and what is remarkable is that this type of bullying (a cowardly verbal assault,lies and propaganda)continues all the way into adulthood.
Therefore I am not surprized at some of the ignorant comments Ive read on this blog and thank God Himself that I am not a woman.
If Obama were a smart politician he would have fully vetted Hillary, kept her on his very short list, and then picked somebody else at the last minute,since it now appears that he never intended on choosing her in the first place. What Obama did instead is extremely arrogant and seems vindictive and petulant, what is emerging as a recurring character trait in Barack Obama. Obama needs to take a big step back from his HUGE ego, as he doesn't have it in the bag. I hate to say it, but for the first time in 25 years, I'm not voting. I won't be forced to join a party I no longer believe in. I do not believe in Obama without Hillary.If America has to suffer 4 more years of Republicans so be it.
very disappointed in the USA.
This supporter of Hillary, thinks she should speak at the convention about the economy and health care and she and Bill not mention anything about Nobama. Then I hope when they do roll call she will be the one with all the delegates. If not she in some manner must have her name on the ballot in November. I refuse to vote for an elitist, and Biden, well we can thank him for all the credit card companies get by with.
I am changing to an Independent and writing her name in because that is the only way it will count here in WV. I think if you stay a dem and write her in it goes to the democrat running and I would rather keel over than know he got my vote. I've never voted for a republican president, and not starting now. My mom always used to tell me when a repub is in office all the middle to low class starve and do without. As we have seen for the past 8 years. I'm tired of Hillary being treated like she is no better than dirt and this is her year to shine and take this presidential election anyway she can. Come on Hillary, you know our country needs you. Please, please help us by putting your name on the ballot. There is not a doubt in my mind you will win. We love you in WV.
d
A lot of you morons still just don't get it. You idiots are the only one's still feuding. Have you ever heard the old cliche "It's business, nothing personal" well all the negative attacks that Hillary Clinton launched at Obama which most backfired, all while Obama didn't take advantage of the numerous opportunities to fire back. It's this simple He won, she lost. The American people decided. Now a bunch of imbeciles are willing to vote for McCain and sink the nation even further into the abyss of despair we're already in out of spite. Get real already. Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama have put it all behind them and have moved on. She's supporting him, for many good reasons, because he's what's best for this nation right now! She knows that, and you buffoons are talking about voting for McCain so he can continue the path of decadence already set by a political party of crooked, lying, constitution raping, bill of rights burning, middle class mauling, silver spoon fed, stuff shirt, hypocrites. Please, before you let it upset you that bad, that you'd make a decision vote for more of the same, you had better just get over it. You think shit is bad now, we'll be in wars all over the world, the foreclosure crisis will have America a nation full of homeless people with a bunch of empty houses, while a conservative administration bail out these mortgage lenders and make sure that these CEO's can still get their 8 figure salaries while still NO ONE IS GETTING THEIR HOMES BACK!!! I could go on and on, but you morons better get out of dreamland and wake the f!@# up and do it damn fast!
Pernell.........I'll do as I darn well please and don't need no kool-aid drinking Nobama worshiper telling me what to do. If I want to cast my vote for the pope then so be it, I will. However, just because you come on here with your rant and your opinion, and think mine should be like yours, go bite yourself. I'm an adult and therefore can think for myself. I will not vote for a Jr. Senator from ILL, that had to destroy all his competition to even get the election, nor will I vote for Biden who controls how all the credit cards in these United States are governed against the American People. So go get yourself off, and leave us alone.
We will and can vote for anybody we want and if that includes McCain, then so be it. Nobama will never get my vote, not today, not tomorrow, not in November. I'd rather vote Jimmy Carter back in.
He will never win this election, you just hide and watch and the reason being, all us Hillary fans, are just that Hillary fans. We will vote for McCain give him his 4 years and let Senator Clinton go back to doing what she does best..
Governing the country.
Go ahead and drink the koolaid now, and get it over with. I don't know how you ever escaped your life with Jim Jones!!
D from WV
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